You know, there's three things I was just coming home and three things that the Lord was talking to me about, um, this evening. And number one is, um, you know, people, a lot of married couples that we work with, they tend to think that it's only them. That has challenges, issues that they have to overcome and walk through some things. And so we wanna let people know that they're not alone and that it's a common thing in marriage to work it out, walk it out, and to strive to thrive and, and continue to get better and grow closer in connection and in intimacy. The second thing, um, is that, you know, people need. And hope and inspiration that they can. And that if they put in the work and they believe and have faith in Jesus and do what he's saying to do and listen to the Holy Spirit, that things will get better. And then thirdly is the practical side of things, right? And there is prayer and there is obviously faith and belief, but there's also. And we're co-laborers with Christ. And so there's also things that we have to do, um, in order to bring about the breakthrough that sometimes we're seeking. So I was just getting that, and that's part of the other reason why I think these interviews are so powerful and they're gonna travel. So where we thought we'd start, uh, mano and Marsha is really, um, you've been married 20 years and you have six children. Mm-hmm. And, uh, Mando, you lead Al Pasadena. Uh, and you two obviously work in that ministry and lead that ministry together. And I know in your bio you talked about loving to, um, have your children minister with you. So we thought we'd just open up a little bit about. Um, your, your, um, your call in life, um, which is Bollo your family, and then also Hope California, which is something that we're also able to partner on together. So maybe a little bit about that. Mando and Marsha, if you would just introduce yourself for those folks listening in. Yeah. Well, um, I, I'm sorry, our, our screen is kind of blurry a little bit, but, um, Um, yeah. So good to be with you guys. Uh, I know you, you mentioned three, three different things, but we are, we are definitely, we've been married 20 years and it's been, there's been a lot of, obviously there have been challenges and there've been a lot of things, but, but, uh, God has. You know, we, we feel like God has been there with us the whole time. It's, it's been a, actually a wonderful 20 years, probably the best 20 years of my life. And so, uh, and I, I don't know if you can say the same. Yeah. So, and we enjoy doing ministry together as a couple, but also as a family. Um, you know, we have six children. And one thing that we wanna do is, uh, live by example to our children and just love Jesus as a family and do, you know, live together, live life together. And that includes everything, including ministry. And so we've been in full-time ministry the last seven years, and honestly, it's a, you know, we homeschool, so that makes it possible. We travel quite a bit and, uh, Um, so I, I think our family, there's a lot of positives to being in ministry. There's obviously a lot of challenges, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of people around things like that. So sometimes the family is like, Hey, we need time for ourselves. So there are challenges that come out of it, but, um, we, we try to keep our boundaries, you know, as we minister and. I, we can talk more about that, but I wanted to just let Marcia share a little. Um, yeah. So we do, um, enjoy including our children in ministry. We feel like our first ministry is to our family. And, um, then through that, God uses the family. God uses the family to minister to the. And so, um, all of our children, our oldest is 16, our youngest is 19 months. And, um, we, um, we pray together. I teach my children at an early age. I just pray in the spirit around the house. Um, we teach'em to pray. Read the Bible. Make sure they have a Bible that's easy for them to read. We, um, pray and read the word in the morning and in the evening we sing. And so, um, we just, whatever my relationship with God is, I just live it on my kids and, um, enter them and grow them into doing the same thing that I do and that we do together. Yeah. Cool. We've, you know, we, we also. Having family traditions that we try to keep as much as possible. Weekly traditions, uh, you know, we have family nights where we are going out as a family on, on a family kind of date or outing or, you know, staying in, watching movies together and things like that. So as long as we keep our hearts connected with one another. You know, uh, especially with the traveling, sometimes I've been, or recently with Hope California, I've been doing a lot of traveling and that could be a challenge, being away from the family. But, you know, staying, staying connected, quality time when we have it, um, in fact that's, that's what we're doing this weekend or this week, spending time together, trying to keep our hearts connected, uh, with fun, you know, not just ministry or, you know, work. So, yeah. That's really good. Yeah. That's important. Yeah. You talked about staying connected, um, Mando, and that's one of the things that, that is so vital, um, in a healthy relationship is that heart connection. Um, maybe is there a, is there a time. Where maybe you realize that the importance of that and things that you've done or things that you actively do. Uh, you're giving an example of this weekend, but just over the course of 20 years, the realization of the importance of that connection and practical things that you're doing to make sure you, you keep it strong. I, yeah, I mean, well, some of this I think was train. We were trained by, by, uh, my dad has a story and, and this, this is something that we've learned. I'm one of seven children and, uh, something that we learned from my dad and my mom, um, regarding raising a family, but this is true for marriages as well. Um, So he, there's a story where, where I think, I think he read somewhere, uh, Dr. Dobson or something that, you know, if you, if your ch, if any of your children can't look you in the eye and there's a possibility that you've lost the heart connection, it's really easy as a parent, it's really easy as a parent to like, you know, when you see your kids, you're around your kids or it, you know, uh, um, There to be correction. Like, do this, do that, you know, our direction. Like, Hey, we need this done, we need that done. Go do your schoolwork. You know, things like that. And, um, sometimes that can be, be the majority of the conversation. And, uh, even in marriage, a lot of times work. Or, you know, uh, tasks can be, uh, we have this to do, we have to go here, we have to do that. And so our conversations are more, uh, functional or task oriented. Yes. Um, than I'm relational. Right? And so anyway, it, and this, and the story goes, my dad came home and he, he, uh, I'm the one of seven children. So he, he, he, uh, took each child into a room and just said, Hey, look in my. And, and, uh, one, I think one or two of his boys could not look him in the eyes and his heart just dropped and he realized I've lost their hearts, you know? And so that after that my parents started implementing something called Days where they would take basically each of our, of the seven kids one day a week. We would get a day where we'd get to spend time with, with, uh, And or mom, uh, with quality time, you know, quality time, just relationally. And, uh, that's become kind of a tradition in all of our families, Matthews tribes, uh, you know, we spend quality time beyond the task oriented times, right? And so, uh, obviously for marriages that's like, you know, being really consistent with, with date nights and things like, Excuse us for the, for the lighting and stuff here. Um, but being very consistent with date nights, things like that. But even with kids, making sure that, you know, my kids, I, I, this is not funny, but one of my, my, my little boy the other day, he said, you haven't taken me to go get a donut in a long time. And so I know like, I gotta go do that because that's how we connect. And, uh, so, so I have to have my. My date days, my daddy donut date days with my kids as well as my wife in order to keep the hearts connected, uh, in the midst of busyness, you know? And so that's very, very important. Yeah. That's really good. Mm-hmm. You know, something that, that is so sweet. Your son's saying, you haven't taken me to get donuts. Where I'm kind of headed with that question where I'm going is communication. Mondo and the importance of healthy communication. And I'm just wondering if you have any, um, you know, journey or, or, or stories to share around the communication? Because what that kind of suggests to me is that your son feels comfortable in letting you know what's, what's on his heart and, and sharing that with you, which is so precious when it comes to connection and, and figuring out, you know, I'm not trying to hurt you. I'm not trying to, um, disappoint you or frustrate you, but if I don't know where you're at, it's very difficult for me, for us to kind of walk in relationship. Um, so just maybe your journey of communication and um, any insight that you might have there. Well, um, you're so right. Communication is key. And when we first got together and we were just dating, um, mano was very, it was very difficult for him to speak, um, and say what he wanted. He didn't even know what he wanted. He's a middle child. And, um, You know, there were different dynamics that led him to the place in life where he didn't even really know what he felt and what he wanted. And so therefore it was hard for him to even put words together to be assertive. And so assertiveness, um, is so important, um, to us. Um, assertiveness, um, my definition is being able to speak what you feel and what you want. And, um, so when we were dating, um, I happened to be going, at that time I was working on my degree in social work. And so he was my, uh, client, if you will, and I would, we would sit on the phone and I would ask him, how do you feel? And, you know, do you feel this way or that way, and all of that. Well, we started out that way, 18 9, 18, 19 years ago. Um, no, it's 20, 23, 22, 23 years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were dating. Yeah, we were dating, and so we had, we were, we dated for about five years and we had a lot of time to work on those issues. And so communication, I, I, I'm very, we are very intentional in our home about creating an environment in which people can, our kids and each other, we could communicate what we feel and what we want. Um, without feeling, um, any negative way toward it. Mm-hmm. So we try to really create a safe environment in which the other person could come to us and state their feelings and their desires, um, and then being heard. And so we've been really intentional about creating that environment. And yes, so our children are very verbal and they say what they want and what they like and what they don't like. So we, we actually have to teach'em and like, you know, how to have a little bit more, uh, decorum and, well, she, she trained me. Communicating what I liked and didn't like and all of that. And it got to be so, so I, I started expressing my, my feelings and emotions so well, while we were dating and she was like, I don't care what I felt. Yeah. So anyway, uh, we got, we, we also, I would say this was very helpful for. Um, it is a commitment. It's a commitment to make sure, but to not let the sun go down on our rack. Mm-hmm. So what that means is if there's any offense or any, uh, you know, hurricane that comes up that we're communicating that. As quickly as we can. And if we can't talk about it that day, at least we're making an arrangement to talk about it. So you know, hey, that that hurts, or can we talk about that tomorrow? And just setting, making sure that we are not letting things that are. That we're dealing with, um, that we're dealing with those as quickly as we can, as uh, cuz the longer those offenses and those pains and things stay under the surface, the bigger they become. Uh, and, and Mole Hills literally become a mountain. Yeah. You know, and, uh, it's been a long time since we've, we've had, I think our first couple years of marriage, um, we had some. Big, big, big, like shakedown arguments. Yeah. You know, it's like we were, we were fighting each other, you know? Yeah. Uh, and that was before we fully knew how to, like, how to fight there. Uh, you know, but um, yeah, uh, you know, there would be times where we'd been insulting each other and stuff like that, but we've learned not to do that. But, um, part of that is we don't let stuff. Like crazy more, you know, where it's like we haven't really talked or expressed ourselves for three months and then you just blow up, you know? Um, yeah. In which a lot of times couples, we, we do that, you know? And, um, you know, when you work on that habit of, of sharing and communicating, Hey, this really bothers me. And you're doing that on a regular basis, even if it's not every day, but, but don't let the sun go down. That's the best practice. Even if it's daily, don't let it go down. Don't let it go down with wrath or anger or whatever it is in your heart towards your spouse. Yeah. That's really good. It's so powerful. Yeah. Do you have a question? Cause I can keep going. So I have, I'm, I, I get questions as I, I listen and, um, the, the next, the next area that you talked about, um, what that I heard was caring. I, I heard some of that about, you know, or the commitment, but the caring for each other. And, um, you're serving all of these. So we have this framework, uh, Mando, and I think it's Marcia, is it Marcia? Not Marsh. Is, is, is that the proper way to say your name? Marcia. Marcia. Marcia. Marcia. I wanna say it right. So I, I heard Mondo say it and I was like, I didn't say it that way. Yeah, sorry about that. But, um, you know, I think that there's seven Cs for collaboration and you've already hit on three of them. You talked about. Communicating. You talked about connection. Mm-hmm. And you talked about commitment mm-hmm. As being critical, and you haven't even seen the framework. So it's, it's clear these things work and you're doing it right. So, congratulations. We haven't been married for 20 years for no reason. Exactly. And ha And, and smiling and laughing and still, and still growing. Yeah. Um, the caring for each other, um, is also an a critical area. For, um, a healthy relationship. And, you know, early on in our relationship, I'll just give a quick example. I used to care for Tricia in ways that she didn't care about, and it created tension, um, in our relationship because I'm showing you, Hey, here's how I love you. And she's like, but that's not how I receive love. Mm-hmm. And so the ability to understand each other. And what we, what matters to us, so. Mm-hmm. I don't know if there's a question there, but maybe just your thoughts about the, the, the aspect of caring for one another and h how you've kind of been able to work that out and understand each other to that level. Yeah. I think, um, that reminds me of the love languages, the five love languages. Mm-hmm. And, um, I read a. Um, that, uh, suggested that if a person's primary love language is not hit is, is not. If I don't show love in their primary love language way, I can hit all other four and that person will still walk away saying I never felt love. And so I think that's important to know each others I know for us, um, his. Quality time. Quality time. That's his primary. Mm-hmm. And that's probably my, my fifth. Mm-hmm. So, um, sos having a great time right now, so, but I, I had to learn that, um, I had to learn that from experience. I remember one time I, um, when I, I think I really got the message. One birthday I planned to give him. The best birthday ever. And I got him a gift. I that's, that's gifts. Mm-hmm. I a very sentimental gift. Mm-hmm. Very thoughtful gift. I made him his favorite food. That's a service. I, um, I did several other things. Mm-hmm. But I did not. And so at the end of the day he said, this has been great, but is. Are we gonna do anything? And I thought, what are you talking about? We've been celebrating your birthday all day. Well, for him, it didn't include people. It didn't in, I just gave him a bunch of stuff and made him a nice meal. And to him he was really lacking. And so I immediately, I called over his brothers and we had a little party. And so, um, I think it's important to be good students of each other. Yeah, that's good. You know, um, be, you know, I think there's a scripture in the Bible that says, for husbands to live with your wife according to knowledge. And I like to think that means find out all about them. I need to find out all about him. You know, he loves service. He loves. You know, various things like that and, and, um, become a good student and then lay down my, what I like all the time. Mm-hmm. And do, do what makes him feel loved. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just wanna ask, so I know you all are very busy homeschooling and ministry and I mean, you just have a, a lot going on. So how do you find your managing that if you find, like, let's say you feel like stress is increasing, or maybe there's family demands, there's. You know, ministry demands so many different demands. How do you balance that and still, um, you know, find yourself being able to still stay connected and, and, and not allow that to, you know, overwhelm your relationship or your family? I believe that God gives a grace to families that are, um, I, I believe God gives a grace to families that are involved in. Tradition, like in, in ministry full-time. Yeah. Um, but that being said, there is some in, there are some in Intentionalities that we have to be very, you know, Marcia is just like an super mom and and wife. She's just like a pillar. So, so the family continues, everything continues on, uh, kind of this normal routine in many ways. And then there's times where it seems. We don't know what the routine is, you know, and so there's a flexibility that our family has that most families don't have the privilege of experiencing it. And maybe it's a, uh, you know, but we try to stay consistent with several things. Uh, one is eating together, um, which is connection. So at least if we can, we eat, eat dinner together. You know, the, the, the kids obviously, I'm not usually there for breakfast, but they're, they're eating breakfast together and spending time in the word and worship as a family, you know, together. Uh, that those things stay consistent. Um, you know, we're traveling and things like that, but that stays consistent. So we're connect. I'm sorry. Yeah. And days, well those are times where we take our kids out or, or dates with, with the wife. And so, so with, with, with me and Marcia. And so we try to keep the, the connection with each other, connection with God consistent, no matter how our days fluctuate and, uh, you know, all of the different ministry travels and things like that. Yeah. So, um, Our hearts are connected. If we, we, and we we're constantly testing to see, are our hearts still connected? Is everyone on the same page like relationally, not just spiritually or, you know, uh, practically or, you know, task oriented. You can be accomplishing all the tasks, but not your heart not being engaged with one another. So, um, are we still connected? We're constantly kind of testing to make sure that we are, uh, connected with each other as well as with our, with our, with, um, our kids. I'm a very intuitive person and I'm, I'm a very, I'm very vigilant. I'm very in tune emotionally and I can tell when. Something's off with my husband. I can tell when he's thinking, I can tell, you know, that's how it is. Right. Husbands and wives, we, we know this. Yeah. And I, I'll always ask like, Hey, what's up? What's going on? What are you thinking? You know? Yeah. With my kids, um, because I do have the blessing and the privilege of homeschooling. I know them. I know when something isn't quite right emotionally. Or just their eyes aren't right. No. Your eyes are telling me you're not feeling well or you're not happy, or come let's talk, let's mommy. We're gonna, you know, I don't care if it's my 16 year old or my four year old boy or my 12 year old boy. Um, I'm there. And I'm asking, and I'm probing and I'm connecting. Um, I don't let things just kind of go and slide. Oh, they'll grow out of it. They'll be okay. You know, teenagers, they get disconnected at this age, I don't believe in that. Yeah. I believe we're supposed to be emotionally whole and connected, whether we're 15, 16, 12, 4 years. Or in our forties. Yeah. Amen. Yeah. Amen. That is so good. Yeah. I love that. Not buying into, not buying into what, you know, popular culture will tell you. Mm-hmm. And, um, you know, cuz Jesus was connected with his father all the time and there was never a disconnect. Um, so I, I love that and I think that's really powerful. I also love the fact that you said you check in. You know, sometimes time passes. Mm-hmm. And you hit on this earlier too, Mondo, about, hey, a little thing here, a little thing there, a little thing there. Next thing you know, three months later and a molehills become a mountain. Um, so I just love, I love that, that you're intentional about making sure that, Hey, I'm okay. You're okay. And not to just maintain status quo, but there's something that I would, I, I can feel in your, in your marriage, that you're also thriving for more. Right. We can always go deeper. We can go deeper in our connection. We can go deeper in our oneness. Um, and so I, I don't know if there's anything you want to share just about that, and you're 20 years in, but you got like many, many, many more years to go and just what you're excited about as you, as you move forward in your relationship. I always like to prefer her first. That's part of marriage. You wanna answer that? Um, well, I mean, we always, I always say, and we always say we're gonna, we're gonna be married and we're gonna die. After we're a hundred and we're gonna die together on the same day. So we have a long time to go to over 100. And so we're looking forward, I'm looking forward to every stage. Um, I don't, um, say, oh, I can't wait till this, and I can't wait till that, and I can't wait till I get the kids outta the house and I can't wait. We're, I am enjoying every stage. I'm enjoying the 16 year old girl stage, and I'm enjoying the 19 month old girl stage. I'm enjoying the, the busy husband stage, and I'm enjoying the, I, we love it all. I love it all, and every. Yeah, is, I like it. E every day. Our days go by too fast. I, you know, it's not like we can't wait till this is over. I, um, just every day I'm enjoying it. That's so good. Yeah. I mean, there's so much in there about this is the day the Lord is made. I will rejoice and be glad in it. That's good. Yeah. And something about being in the present. Mm-hmm. Right? That, um, his presence is in the present. So there's just, there's really, there's a word that you just released over that, which is this soul. Like, we're out there waiting for the moment, but the moment is actually right now. Yeah, the opportunity's right in front of us, so I, I love that. So good. So thank you. Uh, so we're gonna wind this down because you're at Starbucks and you know, I do not want that latte, did you get a cold or a hot latte? I don't know which one you got, but either ice is melting or the, or the temperature's starting to cool down. So one way or another we gotta get you back to your drinks. Um, I think what I'd love to land on is, You know there, there are couples that are in a great place and it could get greater, and there are folks that are in a good place and they're striving for better. And then there are folks that are in a bad place and they're just trying to hang on and hope that, you know, something will turn overnight. And regardless of those stages, there's probably some common threads and some wisdom. That you can pass. So floor's, yours, you know, maybe releasing some, some words of encouragement, um, some practical things that you do beyond what you've already shared. Um, yeah, just to give folks some hope out there. Yeah. I, I, you know, the one thing that I've felt was probably one of the most important things to having a strong marriage is for both individuals to be. And, uh, so a lot of, I, I see people working on marriage. They're, they're trying to work on their marriage, but they're not working on themselves. Yeah. You know, they're trying to do marriage techniques and all of these different things, communication techniques, things like that. But they need to go even deeper. So one of the things that I felt like for me that our, our first couple years of marriage, um, we went through two to three years of. Um, intensive healing, like inner healing. Each one of us, each, each of us, we, we, we went through like three years of classes and trainings and not just trainings, but like intensive healing. Yeah. And, uh, we had to work on ourselves. Yeah. And to be honest with you, it always starts with me, you know, and mayor marriage. Yeah. Right. If, if I want my marriage to get, Um, I could try to create techniques and do all these different things and, and, uh, but ultimately I have to be willing to work on myself and the other person needs to be willing to work on themselves. And we all know where I know what I need to work on in the next 20 years. I already know I just need to do it, you know? Yeah. And so when we are committed to doing that, each of us, then our marriage just automatically grows. And, um, it's easier to, all of the techniques and things that we know we're, we're supposed to do. Those things come a lot easier when we have healed. Each of us has healed. Each of us has made the commitment to heal. And, um, I recommend that for every marriage. Uh, if you haven't already, you know, go through, uh, Deep inner healing. Um, they, there are lots of, lots of programs out there. Yeah. Uh, where each person in the marriage can get stronger themselves. Right. And, and then come together and it'd be incredible. And so, yeah. Um, so I feel like that's, that to me was when, that was about year two or so, or year three of our marriage, that it was like, man, we were, we realized our brokenness initially was kind of coming, was seeping into the marriage. And then as we got healed, each of us individually, our marriage was so strong, you know, And I'm not saying we're perfect, but a lot of the wounds have been healed by Jesus, so, yeah. Yeah. That's so powerful. I would encourage anyone who's struggling, um, I, I should be struggling with my courage. Honestly, I was so broken. But, um, if I can thrive, you can make it. And so, Working on myself. Inner healing was key. I would also say surround yourself with people who have thriving marriages. Because you know, if you walk with the wis, you become wise. Mm-hmm. If you're, all your friends are divorced and you know, cheating on their, you know, and just trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, yeah. You're gonna be like that. And so pray in if you don't have any pray. Some couples that can help you, that can mentor you and that could be your friends. Yeah. Um, so that you can grow together. Yeah. Amen. Yeah. That'ss. So good. Good. Yeah. You have good anything to say? Yeah, I love that. Yeah. That's Rivera. You know, Mando, the both of you are spot on, right? Like it's so spot on. And you know, we talk about Trisha and I in our marriage, we talk about bringing our best self into the, into the relationship. And each of us are accountable and responsible for doing that. And we both do that and we point our eyes towards Jesus. He will draw us closer together. Mm-hmm. It just happens, and I can't explain it, but it just works, you know? Um, and I, I agree, Marcia, I totally agree. You know, we, we become the company that we keep. Yeah. You know, and you know, I, I talk to my kids about this all the time. Influences happening every. You're either influencing the people that you're around or they're influencing you. But make no mistake, influence is always happening. Mm-hmm. And so to be around strengthened marriages where people are also pressing in and being vulnerable and growing and you know, surrounding ourselves in that way. Like why take advice from someone who probably is on their fifth marriage? You know, I don't know. Maybe, maybe, maybe not. I don't know. Um, so I, I love the, I love that insight. I love that wisdom. Um, do you, I think we're gonna wind this down. I mean, yeah, we love this. So we always end on asking for, maybe again, sometime in the future, um, if you're open to it. I really do believe in marriage. I believe in the criticality of the raising the next generation. I believe in what the impact the healthy marriages has on the kingdom and in the community and in the areas that we live. We work and we serve. And so, you know, you go back to the beginning of the Bible and it started with, you know, after creation, he. Man and woman, and he said, you know, it's not good that man should be alone. Yeah. So there's something foundational mm-hmm. That we need to restore as we think about revival and as we think about kingdom on earth as it is in heaven. Yeah. This is so critical. It's the fabric of God's plan. So, Yeah, I think, I dunno, I can keep going, but we're gonna let you go. Go ahead. Yeah, just thank you, thank you for being here. Yeah. Um, just that transition into, I think, which is one re reason why I believe so strongly in and us doing this because, you know, there's so much talk about the billion soul harvest and revival and, you know, and I, I mean, I do, I feel it. I feel it. Which is, you know, you guys, I, I wanted you to talk about Hope California a little bit. I would love for you to talk about that, but. Honestly, I believe. That will not last, that will not pass down to the future generations. If it doesn't. If, if our marriage is not healed, if our marriage is not strong, it has to, it has to start within the family. It has to start within, you know, Us individually and our, and our marriages for that to actually become a legacy for future generations. So, absolutely, absolutely. I don't know if you wanted us to share anything about California. Yeah. Or I know we're winding down, but I, I, I wanna say this, um, if the families and, and the marriages of America and the. We're revived, we would see revival across the world. Mm-hmm. So I think you're right on with that. Um, and you know, the enemy, I believe he knows that if he takes the, the families down, destroys marriages, destroys families, he can destroy nations. And that's exactly what we've been seeing. Yeah. Uh, breakdown of, of our nation really has been, uh, and especially with African Americans, the breakdown of our, uh, it has been the breakdown of the family. And so when the family is restored and, and, and, uh, and is strong, then man, God can move and, and, and, and nothing's impossible for the kingdom of God. Yeah. So, no, I, I love the, the, uh, heart that you guys have and appreciate being with you. You know, I think you can have us back on in 20 years. Well, you know, the good news is we'll still be around too, so it's all good. Amen. We love to come back. We'll come back anytime. Thank you so much. So tell, so tell us a little bit about Hope California. What, what is it, what, what do, what do you, do? You know, what's the hope? California is, uh, it's, uh, an initiative, 40 day initiative really, uh, annually of. 40 days of, of California being, um, just really flooded with the love of Jesus. Prayer, worship, um, unity and outreach across, uh, 10 regions of California and it culminates. With Hope festivals for Hopefest in, um, 10 different cities, 10 different regions across California, so the Bay Area, San Francisco, Santa Rosa, Sacramento, Fresno, um, central Coast. Los Angeles County, San Diego, orange County, Coachella Valley. Uh, those are 10 regions that we're focusing on next year. Um, that where there'll be Hope festivals simultaneously in April of next year, April 1st and second. So, um, you wanna encourage people to get involved, uh, and bring. To our families, bring hope to, uh, whatever it is. It was awesome. Last year when we did it, uh, we had people check themselves into, to different programs. Um, we're hoping that people who have marriage problems will, uh, even come and experience hope in their marriages, in their families, um, at these various gatherings in addition to hearing the gospel in addition to being, you know, set free and healed and all of that. So we're excited, uh, for Hope California next. 2023. April 1st and second, the Hopefest will happen. And uh, thanks for Thank you guys. You guys have been partnering and been, uh, a, a great help up there in the San Francisco, um, region. Yeah. And so where can people go to find out more about it? You can go to Hope california.us to, to, to find out more information. Okay. Perfect.